Shahrukh wants to make a film on Kishore Kumar!
” Kishore Kumar was another of your childhood idols. So are you eyeing a remake of Chalti Ka Naam Gaadi or Half Ticket next? (Smiling) I think I’d like to make a film on the life of Mr Kishore Kumar. That would be an interesting and a more apt tribute. “
source:http://www.screenindia.com/fullstory.php?content_id=13173
As a Kishore Kumar fan what are your reactions to this piece of trivia?
October 8th, 2006 at 1:40 pm
Fool,rascal Unknown1,
S.D has always used Kishore more than Rafi,check on database.S.D once told that Kishore is easily the best singer,working with him had given him the max. pleasure.S.D also used Rafi in Abhimaan,you ignorant bustard.Kishore is much,much greater than all singers,including Rafi & Lata.
October 7th, 2006 at 7:53 pm
Manna Dey told in several Bengali channels that there has been no singer in India having the talent & versatility of Kishore Kumar.
October 6th, 2006 at 8:04 pm
Leave aside Rafi or any other Indian name. Kishore deserves to be placed in the league of the all time world greats. So, those trying to bring in the reference of Rafi are making a mockery of themselves and their ideal. Check out the following link. It’s just a minor reminder where Kishore deserves to be placed and chatted about. This CD on Yodeling was recently released in London and the link was forwarded to me by another great KK fan who is also close to Kishore’s son Amit Kumar. Read the ninth name in the list down there:
http://www.amazon.com/Rough-Guide-Yodel-Various-Artists/dp/B000HIVH84/ref=pd_sxp_f_pt/102-7873259-3402504?ie=UTF8
Kishore’s biggest achievement was to provide Indian listeners with a class that could easily be described as unparalleled. I was never ashamed of not being able to be brought up in an environment where Beatles, Elvis Presley or similar names from the western music industry would maker rounds. Kishore Kumar, for me, was and will always be a great counter challenge to any virtuoso from the world of music…anywhere, anytime.
Hey unknown1, what is this non-sense about converting to Islam? What is wrong in getting in love and converting to Islam (I don’t know whether KK did it or not). If you have problems, go and change the constitution and the general mindset of Muslims in India. By the way, do you know or not, the latter enjoy a special status in the so-called secular Indian state. Being a Rafi fan, you should know it and respect the way your ideal’s community chooses to live as.
Anyway, if your reference indicates at KK’s getting married to Madhubala…huh, forget about it. She is regarded by the industry watchers as the most beautiful woman in Bollywood till this date. So what is wrong if KK fell in love and converted to Islam. Kishore was not only a singing genius but also a very passionate lover (the reason why his singing evokes a far wider appreciation than that of Rafi’s)…he would go to any extent in the name of romance and passion. So, what is the problem even if he did convert to marry somebody? On the contrary, could you imagine and profess if an orthodox Muslim like Rafi would ever convert to marry a Hindu female if he loved her? You will have answers to who makes a “better human being” - Rafi or KK - once you finally decide to make use of your rusting intellect
October 6th, 2006 at 1:33 pm
dear Bapan from KK site please read it http://www.yoodleeyoo.com/web/14.html
Dear Bapan Do u know why SD used KK not Mohd Rafi in film Abhimaa?
because no way that Mohd Rafi will lose from Lata as kk lost in the film,
October 6th, 2006 at 2:53 am
dear Bapan u have no answer what I asked!!!!!!!!
October 6th, 2006 at 2:52 am
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.Manny Dey said that Mohd Rafi is the BEST MALE SINGER NOT ONCE MANY TIME AND HE SAID THAT FROM 1 to 10 is Mohd Rafi we all other singers from 11 and never say about KK that he is best male singer.
October 5th, 2006 at 1:58 pm
Check on the database of this site & www.mohdrafi.com ,you will see that Kishore has sung more songs for L.P than Rafi,just check.Manna Dey has told several times in many interviews that Kishore is most talented singer,there will never be such a golden voice like Kishore in India.You don’t have the capacity to write,so you just copy articles.There are so many articles on greatest Kishore in this site & others,why don’t u read them.I never copy those,as I know that Kishore is greatest.You always feel insecure.Accept the fact that no other singer could yoddle,except Kishore.
October 5th, 2006 at 3:58 am
Dear Bapan I am not good in English but u r goood please read it
This article is written by Raghav
Mohd Rafi was a great singer, unparalleled, and there can never be another Rafi. I have been a great fan of Rafi and I have always loved to enjoy his songs, analyze them and appreciate them all the more.
Rafi had 4 unique qualities:
Quality of voice
Voice differentiation
Ability of expression
Mastery of late entry
which are unique to Rafi and Rafi alone.
Tonal quality of voice and timber was so smooth, free flowing, and of perfectly circular, uniform cross section without any burrs, rough edges or splashes, or out of shape even for a brief moment & the quality of Rafi’s voice can only be felt, cant ever be described in words, I will however try to visualize the perfection of his voice in physical, tangible terms, imagine a tubular pipe of a uniform cross section and tremendous resilience, perfect shape and it’s flexibility enables it to be stretched (high octaves) without thinning the wall thickness, it can be compressed without affecting the shape (low octave), and can be bent and manipulated at any angle in any dimension without disturbing the shape or cross section (alaaps, murkis, and taans) imagine such a material! I doubt whether material science has progressed enough to produce such material! But Rafi had a voice that symbolized the material!
To see the voice quality in action!
listen to:
O duniya ke rakhwale: from Baiju bawra.
Rafi starts normally with “mehal udaas aur galiyan sooni” and jumps up “dil kya ujada duniya ujadi”. Advances rapidly to “hum jeevan kaise gujarein” peaks at “mandir girta phir ban jaata” and slides down smoothly to “dil ko kaun samhaley”.
The vocal pyrotechnics are superbly smooth and effortless, even Nadia Comenci couldn’t be better!
Jaane Bahar Husn tera: from Pyar kiya to darna kya.
Rafi starts the antara at base level , “hai ye teri mast adayein ye baaq pan” repeats the sentence at double the height, climbs up to “kiranon ko bhi na chhoone doonga tera badan” and descends smoothly and rapidly with “tujhse nazar milaye yeh kiski majaal hai”. Beautiful gliding which no para-glider champion can ever replicate!
Rafi perhaps was the only singer with this rare capability of smooth ascent and descent with such a short runway, his voice was the equivalent technology of V-TOL (vertical take-off & landing) and S-ToL of modern day high-tech Harrier jets!
Rafi was at his peak in the period 1955 to 1965. This decade also was the golden period of Hindi film music. Rafi showcased his unique ability of voice differentiation; he used to modify and distinguish his voice to suit different heroes without compromising his voice quality. Hearing a song in Binaca Geet mala, much before the release of the film, we could recognize who the song is pasteurized on!
One could clearly identify the hero, Dilip Kumar, Devanand, Shammi Kapoor, Rajendra Kumar, or Dharmendra. Lata too used to sing differently for Nutan and Meena Kumari, Asha used to distinguish between Asha Parekh and Helen, but Rafi’s versatility and broad range was far superior in all respects.
Rafi even had a different style for MD,s. Rafi’s voice had subtle difference for Naushad, O.P.Nayyar, S.J, and Madan Mohan, SD Burman.
Rafi had this talent to capture the mood of the song, express the very essence of lyrics as well as the overall theme and reflected the situation as pasteurized on screen!
To understand this unique talent recall in your mind:
Too kahan, yeh bataa, is nasheeli raat mein from Tere ghar ke saamne.
Sheer desperation of a physically tired lover seeking to locate his beloved, depicted so beautifully!
Mein nigahein tere chehre se hataoon kaise from Aap ki parchaaiyan.
Sheer helplessness of a love struck hero!
Nache man mora from meri soorat teri aankhen
Sheer ecstasy of an artist on seeing the converging clouds, dying to dance euphorically!
Baazi kisi ne pyaar ki jeeti ya haar di from Nazraana.
A philosophical shrug of shoulders, a humble, graceful acceptance of the ironies of fate!
Bahut sahi gamen duniya magar udaas na ho from Aaj aur Kal
A gentle, consoling, optimistic solace with assured promise of a better tomorrow!
Is rang badaltee duniya mein from Raajkumar
A persuasive advise of a deeply concerned well wisher!
Tere mere sapne from Guide
A reassuring promise of assurance to a grief sticken friend!
There are many more such examples.
Another great quality of Rafi was his superb late entry which was as enthralling as GR Vishwanath’s late cuts in his prime!
Rafi used to enter the song halfway through, very coolly, very surreptitiously and suddenly capture the center-stage, which used to get the other singer/s clean bowled! Examples:
Awaaz deke humein tum bulao from Professor.
Rafi enters in later half, Lata is left behind trying hard to catch up!
Par thehar woh jo wahan in mujhe gale se lagao from Nayi umar ki nayi fasal
A stern interjection, a strong rejoinder that has Asha reeling!
Bahut sahi from Aaj aur kal
A melodious, cool, interjection so reassuring, so comforting that leaves nagging Asha stuck!
There are many more such songs where Rafi making a late entry, captures the centrestage so effortlessly! There a few, not so well known songs in which Rafi has excelled superbly, to name a few:
Raaz-e dil unse chhupaya na gaya: Apna bana ke dekho
Zara sun haseena ye nazneen: Kaun apna Kaun paraya
Ankhiyan sang ankhiya lage aaj: Bada Bhai
Zara saamne to aa voh chhalie: Janam janam ke phere
Yehi hai tamanna: Aapki parchhaiyan
Apni to har aaah: Kala Bazar
These are some of rare songs.
Rafi sahab was great and is great, he will live in our hearts forever and ever.
October 5th, 2006 at 3:55 am
Dear Bapan
Yodeling
This article is by Nair. It was posted as a comment on Rafi and Yodeling article.
“yodeling is a type of singing in which high falsetto and low chest notes are rapidly alternated; its production is helped by the enunciation of open and closed vowels on the low and high notes of wide intervals” (Encyclopedia Britannica).
Concept
Yodeling conveys nothing, yet conveys something sometimes. Structurally, it is a combination of nonsensical syllables. But when incorporated in a tune, these nonsensical syllables generally create a joyful mood, although sorrow is possible as well. Yodeling is seen mostly in tribal music and is traditionally associated with [Swiss] culture (Hmmm… there might even be a legal claim as a geographical indication!). In India, it is known to have been used in some Manipuri folk songs. According to Swiss yodel experts, all that is needed for an aspiring yodeler is a loud and strong voice. It is also an interesting fact that the master yodelers are wolves!!
Practice and Rules
In yodeling, since the high notes rapidly alternated with low chest notes are “falsettos”,
yodeling does not seem like having any musical rule to support it. Another fact emphasizing the “unruly” nature of yodeling is that none of the musical instruments can produce a yodel in the strict sense of the practice, for musical instruments have systematically controlled configuration. To be precise, musical instruments are designed to produce music.
In carnatic music, a yodel like sound is a clear case of “apa-swara” – a voice slip. It normally happens to untrained singers when they try to sing in high swaras. However, in film songs it sounds good in a few situations, for instance, in jollity or happy-go-lucky mood.
When used in a song, the yodel also should conform to the raga of the song; normally it is so. Now, if yodel as an art (if it can be called so) is removed, it simply means that the singer is asked to sing apa-swara. It is to avoid this situation that yodeling is done separately like Yoodeleeey yoodeleeey or Tiri tiri tee yee turu turu too oo oo that stands separated from the lyrics (exceptions are e.g. Chala Jaata Hoon, where yodel forms part of lyrics). Yet, it will not be acceptable for a disciplined music director/singer to have much of it in his songs, let alone making it a hallmark.
These are probably a few reasons why a disciplinarian in music like Rafi Sahab did not pursue an insignificant act like yodeling and went to explore more scientific layers of music.
October 5th, 2006 at 2:58 am
As u said Abhijeet what about Manny Dey?what about SJ?LP used Mohd Rafi more than KK,who is Abhijeet when u speak about great singer?Please read the of Naushand Ali u will know who is Mohd Rafi.Naushand said that Mohd Rafi was 50% of him.who can can about KK like that.Shammi Kapoor said if there was no Mohd Rafi there was no Shammi say said by O P Nayar.You said about KK like that.
You didn’t answer what I asked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 4th, 2006 at 11:00 pm
That’s just because Rafi was prefered more only by few music directors like Naushad,MadanMohan whose popularity is very less compared to the greatest R.D,S.D,Laxmikant-Pyarelal,Kalyanji-Anandji,Bapida,Rajesh Roshan,Salilda,Hemant Kumar & many other music directors,all of whom had used the voice of Kishoreda much more.Anu Malik also said R.D is the most versatile music director & Kishoreda is the best singer.Famous singer Abhijeet,not me,told that Kishoreda is still no 1 to 10.Have u visited the above link I have given,the webmaster has written above that Kishore Kumar is the greatest singer of all times.It is quiet obvious that there is an anti Rafi lobby,because he is a mediocre singer.Now u get lost!!
October 4th, 2006 at 9:03 pm
Dear Bapan,
My favourite singer not mean that he is the best as Indain Cricket team is u r favourite team but today they are not the best.As u know there is Anti-Rafi Lobby.
As u said that Kishoreda is still the no 1 to 10 among all playback singers,both male and female but it said by Manny Dey(singer) I hope u know who is Manny Dey and said on Mohd Rafi not KK.
AS u Said Why is that Rafi did not sing for Randhir Kapoor,Raj Kapoor,Asrani,Mithun,Goldi Anand?Why is that Rafi did not sing for Anil Biswas,Swapan Chakraborty?R.D never went back to Rafi,please check that Mohd Rafi for Raj Kapoor and his son Randir Kapoor also for Mithun,Who is Asrani?how many songs he had?Where is Anil Biswas from the film world?
why RD Back to Mohd Rafi?Naushand used KK once and never again what it mean?KK singed one Bhajan and never singed again??!!!!!!!!
A tribute from Sanjeev Kohli (Son of Madan Mohan)
At the time, everybody, including the hero of the film, wanted Kishore Kumar to be the male lead singer for the film. Rafi Saheb was not at the peak of his performing career, yet my father put his foot down, adamant that only Rafi should sing the songs or he would leave the film.. Of course, after Laila Majnu, Rafi became Rishi Kapoor’s voice in films like Karz., Amar Akbar Anthony, etc., etc”…
U have KK book that good please tell us about changing his name and became muslim to marry?please read about Mohd Rafi and Listen Mohd Rafi songs
Dear ZTEK there is Anti-Rafi Lobby in Bollywood not only Mohd rafi u can see that where is SJ,Madan Mohan,LP,Naushad Ali and many more but they give award in the name of RD?!!!!!!!!
October 3rd, 2006 at 10:45 pm
It is very easy to copy articles from others,foolish Unknown1.Of course,Kishore Kumar was not only the greatest singer,but also the greatest versatile genius in the universe.Kishore Kumar had those 4 qualities 1000 times more than Rafi,& also much more qualities present in Kishore only.
www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/prodigy/299/
October 3rd, 2006 at 8:51 pm
Dear Bapan,
“Aadmi Musaphir Hae (1978)”because this song singed by Amit Kummar at Zee TV and people said him sing it again but he can’t
Rafi had 4 unique qualities:
Quality of voice
Voice differentiation
Ability of expression
Mastery of late entry
which are unique to Rafi and Rafi alone
http://www.mohdrafi.com/meri-awaaz-suno/rafi-sahab-the-greatest-singer-ever.html
October 3rd, 2006 at 6:30 pm
For all the Kishore Fans here… By writing this I am venting out a burning frustration that had been killing me over last 10 months.
Last december I was surfing some channels and suddenly saw Kumar Sanu being interviewd on “App Ki Adalat”. While the interviewer praised Sanu for all his achievements, he asked Sanu a few questions on all the social contibutions Sanu is making… and specifically how he is helping the great grand daughter or the grand daughter of Dada Saheb Phalki who is suffering from cancer by giving her money for the cancer treatment…
Sanu initally doesn’t want to talk about it…but quickly says..something in these lines.
“Yes I am doing that…whats wrong …. Look at Kishore Da he was so much successful yet never offerd anyone a cup of tea..in camparsion “mein accha kar raha hoon na”…haan?…haan?
At that point…I was dead.
Whats up with this man. He achieved everything in life..why does he need to downplay Kishore da for nothing. I was happy to see Sanu make a name for himself in early 90’s today …I dislike him. People in India accepted Sanu because of Kishore da.
When would he learn to respect seniors?. Look at Kishore da how is attributed his success to everyone with whom he associate himself with.
Remember When Kishore da was asked to sing Saigal..how Kishore da refused saying ” Not even one should feel..Kishore sang them better than Saigal”. Thats respect, thats greatness.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:40 pm
Awards or no awards. Listeners, fans and followers (Awaam) are an artiste’s true award.
Singers on the world scene before partition lived in an era where there were not many types of awards. Whereas as we see after partition situation has changed.
Rafi Saheb, Lata Ji, Kishore Da, Asha Ji, Mukesh Ji, Tallat Saheb, Madam Noor Jehan, Mehdi Hassan are the main artiste’s and each one of them can truely claim that they are a school of music i.e. Rafi school of music or Lata school of music etc.
Above singers are the main foundation pillars on which stands singers music industry. Let me say one thing that we are only talking of film playbacks.
I think the said names (with handfull of others before them or around their time) are the providers of light and oxygen for singers now and in the days to come. They are the torch bearers, a guiding force which is fuelling engine of music to carry on singing untill this world ends.
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:58 pm
Unknown 1,
Correct your spellings & horrible english.You are a horrible,foolish & ignorant person.
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:55 pm
Kishore Kumar was a much greater human,singer and versatile artist than Mohd. Rafi.He helped everybody.Long live Kishoreda!
October 2nd, 2006 at 8:24 pm
Dear Bapan,
May I know why u hate the only greatest Mohd Rafi because what we know about him a great singer and human!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!but who u love he had four wifes and changed his God and never singed for free and never help any one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!he said he should be paid before he sing!!!!!!!!
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:56 am
I love Kishore Kumar.
October 1st, 2006 at 10:17 pm
Kishore Kumar - I worshipped and still do worship this genius. I loved his comedy films, where he was the hero - Dilli Ka Thug, Asha, New Delhi, Chalti Ka Naam Gaari, etc. and the songs he sang, especially funny songs. I would so appreciate if anyone has the words to the song ” Kooen Mein Kood Ke Mar Jana, Yar Tum Shaadi Mat Karna”, they could publish them here. My God, the versatility of Kishore, and his free style of singing, like he always sang from the heart. Everyone loves his sobre songs, and so do I too. I am amazed by this genius and talent, and listening to his songs or singing them brings back my nostalgic memories of my youth. And I haven’t even talked about his multitudes of talents as director, producer, music-director, and on and on the list goes. Truly a genius! Taran K.M.
October 1st, 2006 at 9:50 am
I am the very first person to hate Mohd. Rafi.I hate him to the core.
September 30th, 2006 at 10:48 pm
Kishoreda is greatest singer in the world.I love his songs more than my life.Kishoreda,do you know you still have millions of fans all over the world?Do you know in yahoo and orkut,your fan clubs have more members than any other Indian singer?You are the best.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:54 pm
dear Administrator,
U like to delete what is the true but u don’t want delete what is wrong!!!!!!!!!!Dear Administrator u don’t whar wrote by Abhisek”,stop telling lies”.Could Rafi have sung”Are Diwano”,”Mein hoon Jhumru”,”Na koi dil mein”,”Yeh Pag Ghoongroo”,”Zindagi ke Safar mein”etc.Kishore Kumar could have sung Rafi songs better than him,Dear Administrator I hope u know who is Mohd Rafi but I think u don’t know,
Dear Abhisek.
please listen to Mohd rafi songs for one week only u will get better than these songs or the same tape of songs singed by Mohd Rafi.
You can get Mohd Rafi songs in any topic but KK not
September 29th, 2006 at 5:46 pm
Dear Administrator,
thanks for delete what I wrote,Dear Administrator why u don’t want to say us the true about Kishore Kummar?why Kishore Kummar changed his name and became muslim?If is it wrong please tell us the true.
And please tell us why Kishore Kummar said that he will not sing for Mr Bachchan?Is there is any song which KK tried to sing it but he can’t and that song singed by other singer(mohd Rafi or any other singer)?wait for u r answer.