An endless feud between the fans of Mohammed Rafi and Kishore Kumar..
Mohammed Rafi was born at Kotla Sultan Singh, near Amritsar . Rafi displayed his talent for singing at the tender age of 13. The lure of movies beckoned him to Bombay in 1944. His first hit was the Tera Khilona Toota Balak from Anmol Ghadi in 1946. India lost this jewel on July 31, 1980.
Abhas Kumar Ganguly, better known as Kishore Kumar was born on August 4, 1929 in Kandwa. Following the footsteps of his elder brother Ashok Kumar he too ventured into movies. But he soon realised that his heart was in singing. Under the patronage of RD Burman he soon flourished. He would at times compose and write songs himself. Sadly he passed away in October,1987.
The debate as to who was the greater singer carries on even today, even decades after their death. Both of them left an indelible mark in the world of Indian film music, a void that still cannot be filled today. No wonder that their fans are at constant feud with one another trying to prove that their hero was better.
It is a no secret that Mohammed Rafi was a trained classical singer and that Kishore Kumar had a natural talent. Hence Rafi’s fans feel that he was the more accomplished and skilful of the two. Kishoreda’s fans are of the opinion that though he may not have been trained, he had purity and sheer quality of voice. The fact that he wasn’t trained, and could still sing anything, both classical and non classical songs with equal magic rendered him more superior than Rafi.
Fans claim that Rafi was the most favoured singer for many veteran composers while Kishore Kumar was preferred by few and was a playback mainly for Dev Anand and later for Rajesh Khanna. Rafi on the other hand balanced his melodious voice for diverse stars like Dilip Kumar, Dev Anand, Guru Dutt, Rajendra Kumar and Shammi Kapoor.
In support of Rafi’s greatness, many of his fans say Rafi sang for Kishore Kumar in films that Kishore himself acted. They also draw the attention to Rafi’s song Darde Dil in Karz which was based on a single note and proved that he was indeed blessed with God-gifted melody. Mohammed Rafi’s fans also claim that Sonu Nigam and Udit Narayan who belong to the Rafi school are technically better than Kumar Sanu, Babul Supriyo etc.
On the other hand, Kishore Kumar’s fans remind people of songs which he sang by melodiously incorporating his inimitable yodelling. Those numbers are extremely popular even today. They further claim that in the 70’s and 80’s, it was he who sang for a number of heroes.
This debate can go on endlessly. However it must be stated that both were great singers of their times and each had his own distinctive style.
There was no feud between the two and the immense respect that Kishore Kumar had for Mohammed Rafi is clearly seen in the photo during Rafi’s funeral. A silent, sad and grief-struck Kishore in the newspapers portrayed very well that no one except him understood what an irreparable loss had taken place in Indian film music.
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August 1st, 2008 at 5:36 pm
All the singers of golden period of Hindustani music are great and immortal. Each and every one has sung many great songs which no other singer could have sung better. This whole discussion on who was great has no meaning. All of them are simply greats in their own respective way. A lot of contrbution to their greatness was due to the lyrics of the songs that they sung, the music director and the arrangers. Many a great music masters have played music as musicians in those immortal songs. The period was about dedication, passion, devotion and treating work as god. when we look at the movies, their subjects, stories, directions etc. etc. they have produced masterpieces when technology was in infancy. None of today’s greats can achieve those heights simply because none works harder any more.
If Kishore Da was spontaneous Rafi Saheb was Riaz and perfection. Both have given us gems which generations will remember.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:35 pm
kishorda was superior than rafi.. ye lata didi aur aasha ji ne bhi kaha hai….
August 1st, 2008 at 2:25 am
Radio Worldspace paid a daylong tribute to Rafi Sahib by broadcasting about two hundred of his songs.After listening to them all one is convinced that it is sheer folly to compare anybody,anybody whatsoever,with Rafi.
In Marlowe’s eponymous play when Dr Faustus sees Helen of Troy,he bursts out,” All is dross that is not Helena.” We can also say that all is dross that is not Rafi.
July 31st, 2008 at 1:12 am
dear ashu,
I am really upset by the falseness of what u say. in the outlook historical survey of the greatest songs of milenium, Rafi had seven songs and lata had 6 songs while kishore had only 2 songs. Also, if you take top ten of these 20 songs, i am afraid you will not be able to avoid any of rafi songs which means 7 out of 10 would belong to this great and miraculous singer.
and finally i m really disopointed by ur logics. just illogical u r. i mean how u conclude that more songs a singer sings more he will have the ranking. Mukesh sang many more songs than manaday but Manaday’s song was included. Kumar Sanu sang more songs than Sonu but Sonu managed to be part of the list. I mean, how easily u go on saying false and incorrect things. Horrifying.
Ammad
July 28th, 2008 at 8:30 am
Ashu,
There is no connection between OPN’s rift with Rafi, and if OPN thought he could or could not survive without Rafi. The point is that he was very fond of Rafi, and he said that his rift with Rafi was the biggest mistake of his career.
I disagree with you on your final point, Singers definitely exist on their own right, and they definitely don’t need MD’s to exist. Singers, MD’s and Lyricists all have equal important roles to play.
July 26th, 2008 at 4:31 am
Dear ashu,
If I ask you that at night we can’t see the sun but your answer will be that we can see the sun in other country but it is not the right answer because in other country also you will not going to see sun at night.
SD used Mohd Rafi in 90 flims from 120..Naushand mostly all he used KK only for one song.i don’t mean that KK was not good singer or any other singer
who said that Mohd rafi was not singing from 1970 to 1975 or singed so less,Mohd rafi singed for more than 113 flims from 1970 to 1975 it mean more than 56 flims a year
1 Aandhi (1975) MOHD. RAFI
2 . Anari (1975) MOHD. RAFI
3 . Chupke Chupke (1975) MOHD. RAFI
4 . Do Jasoos (1975) MOHD. RAFI
5 . Do Jhoot (1975) MOHD. RAFI
6 . Ek Mahal Ho Sapnon Ka (1975) MOHD. RAFI
7 . Geet Gaata Chal (1975) MOHD. RAFI
8 . Kahte Hain Mujhko Raja (1975) MOHD. RAFI
9 . Lafange (1975) MOHD. RAFI
10. Mausam (1975) MOHD. RAFI
11. Pratigya (1975) MOHD. RAFI
12. Prem Kahani (1975) MOHD. RAFI
13. Teri Meri Ik Jindri (1975) MOHD. RAFI
14. Zakhmi (1975) MOHD. RAFI
15. Zinda Dil (1975) MOHD. RAFI
16. Zorro (1975/II) MOHD. RAFI
17. Bhagat Dhanna Jatt (1974) MOHD. RAFI
18. Chor Machaye Shor (1974) MOHD. RAFI
19. Do Aankhen (1974) MOHD. RAFI
20. Dukh Bhanjan Tera Naam (1974) MOHD. RAFI
21. Geeta Mera Naam (1974) MOHD. RAFI
22. Haath Ki Safai (1974) MOHD. RAFI
23. Hawas (1974) MOHD. RAFI
24. Hum Rahi (1974) MOHD. RAFI
25. Humshakal (1974) MOHD. RAFI
26. Jurm Aur Sazaa (1974) MOHD. RAFI
27. Majboor (1974) MOHD. RAFI
28. Resham Ki Dori (1974) MOHD. RAFI
29. Shandaar (1974) MOHD. RAFI
30 Woh Main Nahin (1974) MOHD. RAFI
31. Dost (1974) MOHD. RAFI
32 Abhimaan (1973) MOHD. RAFI
33. Anokhi Ada (1973) MOHD. RAFI
34. Barkha Bahar (1973) MOHD. RAFI
35 Chhalia (1973) MOHD. RAFI
36. Do Phool (1973) MOHD. RAFI
37. Ghulam Begam Badshah (1973) MOHD. RAFI
38. Hanste Zakhm (1973) MOHD. RAFI
39. Heera (1973) MOHD. RAFI
40. Hindustan Ki Kasam (1973) MOHD. RAFI
41. Loafer (1973) MOHD. RAFI
42. Samjhauta (1973) MOHD. RAFI
43. Yaadon Ki Baaraat (1973) MOHD. RAFI
44. Zanjeer (1973) MOHD. RAFI
45. Anuraag (1972) MOHD. RAFI
46. Dastaan (1972) MOHD. RAFI
47. Dharkan (1972) MOHD. RAFI
48. Do Yaar (1972) MOHD. RAFI
49. Ek Bar Mooskura Do (1972) MOHD. RAFI
50. Ek Nazar (1972) MOHD. RAFI
51. Gaon Hamara Shaher Tumhara (1972) MOHD. RAFI
52. Jeet (1972) MOHD. RAFI
53. Koshish (1972) MOHD. RAFI
54. Lalkaar (1972) MOHD. RAFI
55. Mom Ki Gudiya (1972) MOHD. RAFI
56. Roop Tera Mastana (1972) MOHD. RAFI
57. Sazaa (1972) MOHD. RAFI
58. Shehzada (1972) MOHD. RAFI
59. Aap Aye Bahaar Aayee (1971) MOHD. RAFI
60. Adhikar (1971/I) MOHD. RAFI
61. Andaz (1971) MOHD. RAFI
62. Banphool (1971) MOHD. RAFI
63. Bikhare Moti (1971) MOHD. RAFI
64. Caravan (1971) MOHD. RAFI
65. Gambler (1971) MOHD. RAFI
66. Haathi Mere Saathi (1971) MOHD. RAFI
67. Jwala (1971) MOHD. RAFI
68. Kathputli (1971) MOHD. RAFI
69. Lal Patthar (1971) MOHD. RAFI
70. Maryada (1971) MOHD. RAFI
71. Mehboob Ki Mehandi (1971) MOHD. RAFI
72. Mela (1971) MOHD. RAFI
73. Mera Gaon Mera Desh (1971) MOHD. RAFI
74. Pakeezah (1971) MOHD. RAFI
75. Parwana (1971) MOHD. RAFI
76. Patanga (1971) MOHD. RAFI
77. Piya Ka Ghar (1971) MOHD. RAFI
78. Seema (1971) MOHD. RAFI
79. Sharmilee (1971) MOHD. RAFI
80. Uphaar (1971) MOHD. RAFI
81. Woh Din Yaad Karo (1971) MOHD. RAFI
82 Pyar Ki Kahani (1971) MOHD. RAFI
83. Aan Milo Sajna (1970) MOHD. RAFI
84. Bhai Bhai (1970) MOHD. RAFI
85. Darpan (1970) MOHD. RAFI
86. Dastak (1970) MOHD. RAFI
87. Devi (1970) MOHD. RAFI
88. Dharti (1970) MOHD. RAFI
89. Ek Nanhi Munni Ladki Thi (1970) MOHD. RAFI
90. Ganwaar (1970) MOHD. RAFI
91. Geet (1970) MOHD. RAFI
92 Gopi (1970) MOHD. RAFI
93. Himmat (1970) MOHD. RAFI
94. Humjoli (1970) MOHD. RAFI
95. Ishq Par Zor Nahin (1970) MOHD. RAFI
96. Jeevan Mrityu (1970) MOHD. RAFI
97. Kab? Kyoon? Aur Kahan? (1970) MOHD. RAFI
98. Kankan De Ole (1970) MOHD. RAFI
99. Khilona (1970) MOHD. RAFI
100. Maa Aur Mamta (1970) MOHD. RAFI
101. Maa Ka Aanchal (1970) MOHD. RAFI
102.Mastana (1970) MOHD. RAFI
103.Mera Naam Joker (1970) MOHD. RAFI
104.My Love (1970) MOHD. RAFI
105.Naya Raasta (1970) MOHD. RAFI
106.Pehchan (1970) MOHD. RAFI
107.Raaton Ka Raja (1970) MOHD. RAFI
108. Sachcha Jhutha (1970) MOHD. RAFI
109.Sawan Bhadon (1970) MOHD. RAFI
110.Suhana Safar (1970) MOHD. RAFI
111.Train, The (1970) MOHD. RAFI
112. Umang (1970) MOHD. RAFI
113. Bombay Talkie (1970) MOHD. RAFI
July 22nd, 2008 at 10:23 pm
Post 1162 - Mr. Ali,
I have appreciations for your essay. That is Fine especially your comments abouts Sri K J Yesudas.
I request you to pl. read carefully with patience my post 1111 and give your comments please.
July 22nd, 2008 at 1:06 pm
The following comment
“My dear friend, once more i would like to write…Singers exist due to MDs not vice versa.”
This is what one can say.
This can be the case with any other singer but not with Rafi. If we go by the above theory then Rafi should have not recorded a single song from early 70s onwards.
July 21st, 2008 at 10:07 am
Dear myk,
I know complete story of OPN and Rafi.
I meant to say, if he was so find of Rafi, and if he think he could not survive without Rafi, he could not have rift with him.
My dear friend, once more i would like to write…Singers exist due to MDs not vice versa.
July 21st, 2008 at 10:04 am
Sudip,
Fact is startdust, Hero Honda award
….Aur kya chahiye….
I know the standard of stardust , hero honda….
Shahrukh is getting award every year..
I am not surprised
July 18th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Ashu:
Rafi was INDEED honored with the “Best singer of the millennium” by Hero Honda and Stardust magazine in Mumbai on Jan 7, 2001. Similarly the Filmfare award for Best male playback singer also went to Rafi.
Check the facts..
July 17th, 2008 at 9:16 am
Ashu,
OPN was very fond of Rafi, the reason why he stopped recording songs with Rafi in a small part of the late 60’s is because they had a small misunderstanding. The move to not record songs together during that period was taken by OPN and not by Rafi. OPN later said, that move was the biggest mistake of his life. OPN and Rafi’s relationship stood till the very end as well.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Ali,
This is my last reply to you. Reason is, most of ur words are imaginary which was already raised by some other rafians, and i have already replied to these illusion with facts in my blogs.
If you ask someone abt Rafi, he will say very good things abt Rafi. And if you ask someone abt Kishore, he will again say great thinigs abt him. So you can’t conclude based on someone’s favorite. It is all subjective.
I give one example. I hope u watch “Sa Re Ga MA” or “VOI” or” Superstar”. Judges are well establish MDs, but regarding contestant their choices vary.
- Manytime it happened that Ismail like someone, but Himesh, Vishal-shekhar not and vice versa. What soes it mean?
TO mere dost, e sab subjective hai…
RDB openely said that Kishore is best among male. Again, it was his choice.
Abt O P nayyar…He stopped composing songs with Rafi later 60s…If he was so fond of Rafi, then he would have not done that.
For e.g. MM..He was very fond of Rafi, so realtionship stood till the end.
RDB…He was fond of Kishore. so relationship stood till end.
Ali, Pls. Don’t write something which is completely imaginary.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:28 am
Dear Ashu
What the stars say about Rafi Sahab(taken from Geocities website) :-
OP Nayyar(Music director)
“I loved Mohammed Rafi. His death was a big loss to me. When I composed for Shammi Kapoor or Johnny Walker, he managed to sound like them. He sang so many wonderful songs for me. Rafi miyan was a wonderful person. Nobody can ever be compared to him.”
Lata Mangeshkar(singer)
“A man of unassuming temparament, Rafi Sahab was very melodious. It’s my good fortune that I sang the maximum number of duets with him. He sang every kind of song so brilliantly that even those listeners not very conversant with music, would spontaneously break into appreciative wahs - wahs. Singers like Rafi Sahab aren’t born everyday.”
Asha Bhosle(singer)
“His greatest ability was that he could sing at a high pitch and shift to a low pitch immediately. He could manage that very well. One of his songs which I love is Suhani raat dhal chuki.”
Johny Walker(comedian-actor)
“Rafi Sahab was such a dedicated singer that he would take time to meet with the actors and to study the actors’ personalities so that he could match his singing style with the actors’ style, accent and pronunciation. Jab Rafi Sahab mere liye gaate, tab aisa lagta ki main khud ga raha hoon(When Rafi Sahab sang for me, it seemed like I was singing)”.
Laxmikant(music director)
“He was a great human being. He would never ask what he was going to be paid for a song. Apart from waving off payments, he even helped producers financially. He’d help out the needy. He always gave without thinking of the returns.
Once Rafi recorded six songs in a day for us-two for Anjaam, one for Maa Aur Mamta, two for Man Ki Ankhen and one for Pyasi Shyam. Imagine, he could memorise six songs in a day! And he could do this at live recordings and not through the easy dubbing method that’s on today. If any singer claims that he has recorded 25-30 songs in a day, he’s talking nonsense. There’s only one singer in India who can even attempt that and that’s S.P.Balasubramaniam, not anyone else.
The demand for Mohammed Rafi’s songs is phenomenal. No other singer, not even Lata Mangeshkar, has been able to attract such a tremendous following. It’s almost as if he were still alive.”
Shahid Rafi(son)
“If a producer was in a tight spot Abba would’nt accept any money from him. He was a God fearing man. He felt he was an instrument through whom God was singing…whenever he was extra busy he’d ask the producer to give the song to another singer)”.
Naushad Ali(music director)
Tu hi tha pyar ka ek saaz
Nafrat ki is duniya mein
ganimat thi teri awaz
nafrat ki is duniya mein. On Rafi’s death Naushad sahab remarked…
Kehta hai koi dil gaya, dilbar chala gaya
Saahil pukarta hai, samundar chala gaya
Lekin jo baat sach hai, woh kehta nahin koi
Duniya se mausiqui ka paembar chala gaya !!!
“He earned respect and his popularity touched the sky. The magic of his voice enthralled the whole world. His popularity, respect and wealth all increased tremendously, YET he ALWAYS remained modest. Like a fruit-bearing tree, the more he fructified, the more he bent in front of the world. His heart was filled with fear of God and the love for truth. Generosity and altruism were part of his system. God and truth were the only sources of inspiration for him. And he always used to say Tum yahan jaisa karoge waisa bharoge, ye duniya ek mandir hai”
Jagjit Singh(ghazal singer)
“Rafi sahab had immense versatality and an ability to take on the personality of the hero on whom the song was picturised. Every time you hear a Rafi song, you see the hero, you can vividly put in place the situation and correctly access the mood.”
Raj Kapoor(Actor/producer/director)
Raj kapoor’s reaction on hearing the news about Rafi’s death wasb “In the world of music, the uncrowned king of singing has left us”.
Shammi Kapoor(actor)
Shammi Kapoor acknowledges that Rafi had a lot to do with his success. “It was amazing the way Rafisaab adapted himself to what I wanted him to do. I used to be terribly involved with my songs and go for all the recordings. I used to make it clear how I wanted a certain line sung and Rafisaab always responded. I remember when the song Tareef karoon kya uski (in Kashmir Ki Kali) was being recorded, I wanted the signature line Tareef karoon to be repeated till it reached a crescendo. O P Nayyar, the composer and a friend of mine, objected. He thought it would sound boring. But suddenly, Rafisaab spoke up and said ‘I would like to do it the way the boy wants it because I know what he wants’.” When the film was released, the song was a big hit. Nayyar hugged Kapoor and congratulated him for his foresight, but the actor maintains “it was possible only because Rafisaab had taken the song to such a pitch and had sung each repetition in a different style.” He adds, with a touch of pride, “Though Rafisaab sang for all the actors — be it Dilip Kumar or Johnny Walker — he was especially identified with me. Some songs sung by him and picturised on Joy Mukherjee and Biswajeet were actually my kind of songs. Baharon phool barsao, Pukarta chala hoon main or Teri pyari pyari surat ko — these were my songs, sung in Rafi’s special style for me. I remember when he sang Main gaoon tum so jaao for Brahmachari, I told him how I wanted him to sing one particular line. When he saw the picturisation he came and kissed my hand and said, ‘it’s very beautiful, why didn’t I think of that?’ I felt as if my own voice had been lost and could not utter a word for hours when I heard this shocking news of Rafi Sahab’s death.”
Shabir Kumar(singer)
“I have been singing Rafisahab’s songs since 1968 when I first started performing on stage in my hometown of Baroda. I have met Rafisahab only twice and both meetings were very moving. He was so nice and kind to me even though I was a nobody at that time. The first time I met him at Famous studio in 1972, there were a lot of people waiting to meet him. I used to sketch then and drew a sketch of him when he was recording. As soon as he passed me I showed the sketch in his hands to get his attention. He encouraged me a lot. Even today, there is a large audience for Rafi’s songs.”
Anand Bakshi(lyricist)
Even today when I write something I imagine how it would sound if Rafisahab had sung it. His place can never be filled again.”
Nitin Mukesh(singer)
“Amongst his contemporaries, my father’s favourite singer was Mohammed Rafi. He loved Rafisaab’s voice, and believed that nobody could replace him.”
Udit Narayan(singer)
Udit Narayan talks about his FIRST recording with Rafi Saheb “As it was a dream come true I was obviously excited, and to add to my excitement I was to sing none other than with Rafisaab, that very singer whom I worshipped as my guru, whose voice I used to hear on the radio, was in front of me! I can’t describe my ecstasy. But I was a bit nervous too. Rafisaab, realised this and the angel that he was, he comforted me by saying ‘You remind me of myself. I too was of your age when I came in the industry. Do not worry keep going.’(Mohd. Rafi was a chorus singer at the start of his career.) ”
Khayyam(music director)
“Rafisahab was the pride of India. His voice and his memories are still with us even though his body has left us.”
SD Batish(singer of 40s)
“His extremely humble way of showing respect for my seniority, before all gathered, left an impression of utmost respect and regard in my mind. Time went by, and Mr. Rafi, with his, ever flexible good voice and sensitively flexible behavior, did not waste much time, in becoming the favorite playback singer of the film industry. It had been observed that he would not disappoint any film producer or music director who would invite him to sing. Whether he could pay or not. This created no problem for the generous Mr. Rafi. At the appointed time, the song would be recorded to the satisfaction of the music director.”
Manna Dey(singer)
“Despite being an educated singer, I could never reach Rafi’s height of popularity. And he sang very good songs that I could never hope to sing. His style was unique. I sing Rafi’s songs to myself when I am alone. He was a singer par excellence. He was an uneducated singer like Lata, but their voices are gifts of God. It cannot be anything else!”
“I have been singing for many years now. I have seen and heard so many singers. But the most brilliant of all singers and all songs are the ones sung by Mohammed Rafi! ”
“Mohammad Rafi was king, and Manna never grudged him his success because he genuinely believed that Rafi was better than he was! ”
“In my time, there were giant singers. Rafi was there, and he was such a great singer. He used to sing for everybody — the hero, the villain and the comedian. ”
“How can you ever dream of singing what legendary singer like Rafi have sung? I do not claim to come up to his standards. ”
Dharmendra(Actor)
On being asked “Hemant Kumar, Mukesh, Mohammad Rafi, Kishore Kumar… all of them provided playback for you. Whose voice suited you the best?”, macho man Dharmendra said: ” Mohammad Rafi’s contribution to my career is immense. From numbers like Jaane kya dhoondti rehti hain yeh aankhen mujh mein (’Shola Aur Shabnam’) right till Main jat yamla pagla deewana (’Pratigyaa’) have remained evergreen. The other singers have also made huge contributions to my career. I can never forget that. But Rafi saab is a personal favourite. ” - Source: Filmfare 2000
Sonu Nigam(singer)
“Rafi Saab is God to me. I have grown up listening to him and imitating him in my early years. Rafi Saab sounded only like Rafi Saab if he sang Chahe koi mujhe junglee kahe from Junglee, or Man tarpat Hari darshan ko from Baiju Bawra which is what made him the legend he was.
The above says more about Rafisaab,the singer, the man and the saint-the singing saint! When people -who were so close to him both personally and professionally - have such magnanimous words for him, who are we to doubt about his capability. Just note what Laxmikant says about his phenomenal popularity even today(unmatched even by Lata!)
Yesudas
South Indian singing sensation, Yesudas in one of his interviews posted on chennaionline.com today declared that:
I have worked with M S Viswanathan, Ilayaraja, Devarajan, Dhakshinamurthy, Baburaj… I like Mohammed Rafi’s voice. I got an opportunity to sing along with him but due to unavoidable circumstances it did not happen. He used to address me as his son, which made me feel proud. I have known Kishore Kumar also
Plz give name who spoke about KK AS SINGER ONLY SINGER boz your comapring mohd Rafi as singer with KK as singer
July 16th, 2008 at 5:28 am
above all : se i hav read comments .. i respect both the singers .. its never be a good idea to compare .. them. all i can say is if u remove Kishore Kumar from bollywood.. then wat u got lost…………think..
we will lost aur most of the greatest stars. like rajesh khanna, Rishi kapoor, Dev anand, Amitabh bachchan, dharmendra, even some stars are not so popular but still people remember them only due to the fact that kishore da sung for them..eg; rakesh roshan, sashi kapoor, tariq shah, Jitendera etc & some stars got good start only due to Kishore da, eg: anil kapoor, sunny deol, sanjay dutt. also if u listen any song of kishore ji with details u will notice that kishore ji gives actors an idea how to act in that particular situation or mood & somebody wrote that Rafi had more emotions then kishore ji in singing…thats sad.. actually he is actor on both ends in front of camera & behind the microphone.. & in his singing i feel even without melody he creats magic.. & much more versatile then rafi ji.. No dought there is nobody like Rafi ji coz he was better singer then Kishore but my frnds If rafi ji was singer then kishore ji was a performer. his voice attracts.. if u know better abt singing for movies.. then only we need is betther performer with singing capabilities. Kishore had it Both.
at last but not least rafi ji cannot sing most of the songs of kishore ji with same mood & energy………..lot more to say gotta go..
July 15th, 2008 at 11:25 am
Dear Ali,
I think u have not read all my prev. blog… I have already replied to all question raised by you long back.. Pls. read my prev. blog..It will bring some light to you with respect to photo and other imaginary things..
I wrote many times, but let me write once more. I personally visited Kishore’s bungalow an di could see only his and K L Saigal photo. He was great fan of K L Saigal.
I have already posted a blog on kishore’s Fav. Pls. read. Hope it will bring some light to ur knowledge.
July 15th, 2008 at 10:06 am
Ashu,
It’s not about logic, it shows that Kishore accepted that Rafi was a better singer than him, and acknowledged it greatly.
July 14th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Ashu, I am not referring to outlook survey that was taken by 25 judges. Please also not that Rafi did not have 4 to 5 soongs but 6 to 7 songs. Make sure that you provide correct info. (4-5 is not 6-7).
Rafi was declared as beast male playback singer og milenium sometimes in 2001 or so. I do not exactly remember. It has nothing to do with information you have given which is anyway false.
July 14th, 2008 at 11:02 am
Dear Ashu
Manna Dey said that Mohd Rafi is no 1 to 10 and he is better singer, Mukesh son said that his father was a fan of Mohd rafi and Talat ji said that Mohd rafi is gift of God.I don’t know if KK said that I will never be able to sing like Mohd. Rafi”. but i am sure mohd Rafi never said that I will never be able to sing like KK”.as said by md Ravi there are many songs in which KK was not able to sing and there is no song in which mohd Rfai not able to sing,P from LP when be asked do u make music as singer?the answer was yes but if singer is Mohd Rafi Lata and Asha jest we make the music boz they can sing and any way we made it but other singer not.
About SDB was great but some said that his son RD was more greater than his Father I don’t think so I think RD can’t be 20% of SD…as music we got few great boz of that we all not going to agree that SD was no 1,If you ask I will say no 1 SJ 2 Naushand 3 SD 4 Madan mohan and 5 OPN….
July 14th, 2008 at 8:59 am
vipul my dear friend,
Rafi was never voted best male singer of century. In survey, penalist selected top 10 songs, In that i think Rafi had 4-5 songs, Kishore had 2 songs, Lata had 6 songs…
)…In facr, SDB was voted best music director.. What is ur take on that? 
Since Rafi had more songs than any other singer, he was rated no. 1 (because of occurance of songs….I don’t thing its great because Rafi and Lata had sung more songs compared to other singers, and All Rafi’s songs was from 50s and 60s era…so it clearly shows the popularity and who i sno. 1
Vipul, pl.s enhance ur knowlegde and then write after….
Aur ha…I don’t want to reply ALI…because all those songs are rafi’s best songs…Why kishore, take Manna Dey, Mukesh or Talat’s indivisual songs…noone can match to those because it was already executed by legends….So i don’t think there is any point in discussing on somethign whihc we aready discussed.
myk,,,,,kya logic hai…great.
u wrote:
“I will never be able to sing like Mohd. Rafi”.
my reply:
If kishore can able to sing like Rafi, then i think we would have not wated our time here…..Clones can never be great…Clones are always clones like Sonu nigam, Abhijeet, kumar sanu, anwar etc.
In many occasions, Even Rafi said that he can’t sing like Kishore..
July 13th, 2008 at 12:25 am
The answer why people don’t compare KK with Lata Ji boz KK has been paid 1 rs less than Lata ji boz kk………………………
Ashu……..all said that the best music in bollywood was in 1960’s why plz?
I can say that i am Ali better singer than mohd rafi but i don’t know AB of music and your doing the same.son of KK said that his father is fan of Mohd rafi only having Mohd Rafi photo in his home……..
Dear Ashu plz don’t try to compae two great singer.
name like Shammi Kappor,OPN
July 13th, 2008 at 12:16 am
Dear ashu,
I don’t know why your speaking about yoodlee?!!!!!!!is yoodlee is lesson in music?offorse KK and asha ji are great singers but they never be compare with mohd rafi and Lata ji..why you want to compare mohd Rafi with KK please try to compare kk with mukesh or manny day or any singer you want.why you all have Mohd Rafi to compare.I never saw that some one compare Lata jo with KK and there are many who try to compare Mohd Rafi with Lata ji!!!!!!!!!do u have the answer?i love KK as an actor more than singer offourse he was great singer……….
July 13th, 2008 at 12:16 am
Dear ashu,
I don’t know why your speaking about yoodlee?!!!!!!!is yoodlee is lesson in music?offorse KK and asha ji are great singers but they never be compare with mohd rafi and Lata ji..why you want to compare mohd Rafi with KK please try to compare kk with mukesh or manny day or any singer you want.why you all have Mohd Rafi to compare.I never saw that some one compare Lata jo with KK and there are many who try to compare Mohd Rafi with Lata ji!!!!!!!!!do u have the answer?i love KK as an actor more than singer offourse he was great singer……….
July 11th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
Singer Minoo Purshottam recently revealed on TV Asia’s “Abhi To Main Jawan Hoon” that Kishore was a fantastic harmonium player, and that Kishore used to say:
“I will never be able to sing like Mohd. Rafi”.
When Kishore and virtually every other musician, singer, lyricist etc. all hail Rafi as the greatest, why is there even the issue of a debate ?. Something to ponder over.
This debate was over a long time ago, it has already been proven that Rafi was and is the greatest male singer of all time.
July 10th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Ali, wonderful post (1146). I think Ashu will avoid replying to u on that.